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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:24 pm  Reply with quote
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPrHmSzyP0

after 2:20

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:35 pm  Reply with quote
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I love Crowbar and this won't change my opinion of that....imo,Kirk definitely overeacted and was probably having a bad night...definitely no reason to kick the guy...I've met Kirk a few times and he couldn't have been a nicer dude...plus some performers are more jumpy than others given some of the high profile on stage incidences that have occurred over the last decade...ya just never know what can set some people off...

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Rather disappointing of Mr Crowbar there.

Like Doom-ster says, considering the incidents of the fairly recent path you can understand why performers feel under threat on stage this and why they might loose the plot in such a situation. To be honest though, physical violence has no place anywhere except self defence and that wasn't self defence

If you don't want people on-stage, declare it at the beginning of the show and let the "professional" handle it unless you feel you are in immediate danger. Otherwise, stay cool, it's in your best interests.

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huh, yeah--probably didn't need to kick the kid in the head--looked like the security guy had things under control. a pretty shitty thing to do when there's no immediate threat.
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I know a couple of morons who were attending MDF this year... good to see it wasn't one of them!

From my experience of attending shows in Australia, having someone jump on stage doesn't result in a kick in the head from the band members. In many cases it's encouraged for people to come up on stage!
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I don't know anything about Crowbar but that was all kinds of pathetic. Firstly the security guy was way OTT, no need at all for a rugby tackle. And I'm sorry, nice guys don't kick people in the head. It only got messy in the first place because of the tackle, hardly the fans fault. And it's hardly uncommon for somebody to make the stage at a gig of that type. Crowbar are definitely off my Xmas card list. Dickhead.

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and they even stopped to play so kirk could bitch about

crowbar...what a bunch of pussies.

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All he had (he kicked with)

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Overreaction on Kirk's part for sure. I watched this a few times now, because it's appearing on all the metal sites I frequent. I think if anybody is to "blame" for this it's the security guy.

Kirk's playing, apparently with his eyes closed, so he can't se what's Happening next tio him. The fan is a good deal away from him and is just about to jump right back into the crowd. There's absolutely no need for the security guy to bull rush the kid and push him into Kirk.

Massively unprofessional security dork move if you ask me. Kirk couldn't have seen who bumped into him and why.

The kick and the rant is still over the top and not cool. Especially the kick to the head/shoulders of the fan.

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We all have off-nights. Kirk's a nice guy, so I'd cut him a little slack.
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We all have off-nights. Kirk's a nice guy, so I'd cut him a little slack.


Definitely. He's a great guy. I met him only twice, but he seemed to be very nice.
I didn't mean to slam him. Like I said, maybe a bit overreacted in the heat of the moment, but I guess he didn't really know what's going on.

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at the risk of seeming like i care more about this than i do, i found this quote from a topic reply on the kirk's official response pretty funny.

“I’ll kick you in the face, but I’ve had a bad day, so be cool about my lashing out bc I respect u all.”
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All he had (he kicked with)



This is good...



Kirk deserves a break on this one...cool guy who has confirmed it was a rough night that night...I'm willing to bet he doesn't feel great about a heat of the moment loss of composure...

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I can see he (Kirk) is taken by surprise but to kick someone? It says a lot about someone how they act in the heat of the moment... and he didn't look good.
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Fatherhood and sobriety don't work very well for him apparently. Too bad.

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i'm not sure there's much to give him a break from, doom

either you like the guy/band or you see it as a dick move

can't see either group being much moved by the other
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klawful wrote:
i'm not sure there's much to give him a break from, doom

either you like the guy/band or you see it as a dick move

can't see either group being much moved by the other



Yeah,that's true...I see it as both:a dude I like who made a dick move...guess we have maybe harped on this longer than it deserves sniggering

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this thread has been a bit too on-topic for an avalancher thread! Very Happy
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klawful wrote:
this thread has been a bit too on-topic for an avalancher thread! Very Happy




Yeah,how come this never happens with threads about how sexy I am?

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because gol doesn't like the stiff competition.

he's got to break that shit up!
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He didn't see him coming. As Avocado said security guy fucked it up. Kirk knows that people even get shot on stage ( Dimebag ) so reaction was more out of fear.
On the other hand Crowbar are not HC band. On HC gigs if people don't jump on stage, band thinks that something's wrong or their music sucks.

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this is one(of the many) thing i hate about social media and everyone having iphones now-every fucking thing gets recorded and debated about. if anything, i think the security guy went overboard and looked like he caused the dude trying to stagedive to be thrown into kirk by pouncing on him. on the other hand, it was probably made clear that by the promoters and security that MDF didn't want anybody on stage, so the guy knew what he was getting into. it was barely a hard kick at all. i can't imagine what i'd in the same situation, but this was clearly made a way bigger deal than it should have been as i have seen it on several message boards.
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doomride wrote:
klawful wrote:
this thread has been a bit too on-topic for an avalancher thread! Very Happy



Yeah,how come this never happens with threads about how sexy I am?


I'm sure you're one sexy manbeast doomie.... but this thread starting trouble maker from Istanbul is the sexiest Avalancher I've met in the flesh yet. Sorry to all you other Avalanchers I've met, Golem has this exotic east meets west thing going on that I can't resist love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love geigh
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Well,I would be a fool not to concede to the bat-boi of course....but here is a double dose of sexiness that you might not be able to recover from...just bask in the paleness...


http://avalanchers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4191&highlight=geigh+porn

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Woah... nice! Who's the guy on the left?
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didn't kirk leave down? met him a couple of times seemed like a really nice guy.

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Boyd and Fiends wrote:
Woah... nice! Who's the guy on the left?


I *think* it's Scottish comedian Craig Ferguson ...

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At Roadburn Fest Kirk and Shane Embury had very interesting discussions on what was the best way to change diapers. So cute!

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Boyd and Fiends wrote:
doomride wrote:
klawful wrote:
this thread has been a bit too on-topic for an avalancher thread! Very Happy



Yeah,how come this never happens with threads about how sexy I am?


I'm sure you're one sexy manbeast doomie.... but this thread starting trouble maker from Istanbul is the sexiest Avalancher I've met in the flesh yet. Sorry to all you other Avalanchers I've met, Golem has this exotic east meets west thing going on that I can't resist love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love geigh


Boyd, no one is going to argue with the fact that Golz is impossibly sexy!

Even Princess Elrrek, who's intensely jealous, will admit this.

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Josh wrote:
Boyd and Fiends wrote:
doomride wrote:
klawful wrote:
this thread has been a bit too on-topic for an avalancher thread! Very Happy



Yeah,how come this never happens with threads about how sexy I am?


I'm sure you're one sexy manbeast doomie.... but this thread starting trouble maker from Istanbul is the sexiest Avalancher I've met in the flesh yet. Sorry to all you other Avalanchers I've met, Golem has this exotic east meets west thing going on that I can't resist love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love love geigh


Boyd, no one is going to argue with the fact that Golz is impossibly sexy!

Even Princess Elrrek, who's intensely jealous, will admit this.


Quoted for FASL....

Wait, hold on, I had to read that again because I normally would now exactly what to post when Joshy Woshy Yogapants posts something but .... you know ... sometimes you get a surprise and this time, he does have a point.

Thnkfully though, he didn't come up with it on his own and is riding someone elses wave so, phew, it's not that big a deal!

GO JOSH!

And by that I mean you should actually go, like leave, GTF.

Twonk.

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*feels so beautiful and wonderful, with a little blush on his face


sorry guyz but there is no excuse for kicking a fan in the face or shoulder, i would put that mic. into his asshole, period.

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golem wrote:
sorry guyz but there is no excuse for kicking a fan in the face or shoulder, i would put that mic. into his asshole, period.

EXACTLY!
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golem wrote:
sorry guyz but there is no excuse for kicking a fan in the face or shoulder.

That's pretty much true but i the way i see it is that it was the fault of the fan. Why did he climb on the stage in the first place? Wasn't it quite clear that in a venue like that it is not acceptable? Yet i still wonder Kirk's anger in that situation. Though he didn't see what happened next to him he was still overreacting.
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I think this thread can be summed up by two words:shit happens...

Nobody is dead and it was a minor incident and it's long over...

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did kirk leave down?

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did kirk leave down?



Yes...he isn't on their latest EP...wanted to concentrate on Crowbar full time...an amicable split...

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